Mayor Stonewalling in Sunday Parking Deal, Some Aldermen Say

Some aldermen trying to opt out of free parking at metered spaces on Sundays under the recently renegotiated meter lease deal say they are getting the runaround from Mayor Rahm Emanuel’s office.

During hearings on the revised parking meter lease deal several weeks ago, Corporation Counsel Stephen Patton assured aldermen that if they wanted to keep paid parking on Sundays in their wards to control business traffic they would have the support of Emanuel.

But now, several aldermen are seeing resistance from a mayor’s office which seems to want to control the process of which wards are allowed to keep paid parking on Sundays, they say.

Two recent developments: an ordinance that would have preserved metered parking on some streets in Lakeview and Lincoln Park was not on Wednesday’s agenda for the full City Council, and a note aldermen received Tuesday night from Emanuel’s office seeking more information.

On Monday, Ald. Tunney (44th) and Ald. Smith (43rd) introduced an ordinance at the Pedestrian and Traffic Safety committee meeting that would preserve paid Sunday parking at meters on streets in the retail shopping districts located in their wards, a move they say would help business owners who need a turnover in the spots so customers can park.

Read more at DNA Info Chicago.

21 Responses to Mayor Stonewalling in Sunday Parking Deal, Some Aldermen Say

  1. Jeff says:

    Yet another lie to add to Mayor Midget’s hit parade. Shame on the aldermen who voted (again) for another billion dollar giveaway to Chicago Parking Meters. And shame on those alderman for believing anything from the Mayor’s office of the Corporation Counsel about this deal.

  2. Mike says:

    If they have paid Sunday parking, what are the hours for paying the meters? If its still 9pm, then no loss. If its now 10pm and no free Sundays, what a bunch if morons. BTW speed cams start ticketing in sept.

  3. Drew says:

    It’s going to be between 10pm and Midnight in the Central Business District..

    Halsted to the Lakefront
    Roosevelt to North Ave.

    Both Sides of the Streets on North Ave and Roosevelt Rd.

    I’m still torn on the Speed Cameras. So many morons speeding down the side streets in school zones trying to get their spawn to class because Mommy or Daddy over slept.

    Oh Geek…19 Days until City Sticker Enforcement for Expired Stickers.

  4. Mike, what date in Sept. are the speed cams starting? Don’t they have to change the state law first?
    Drew, the morons who speed around schools can usually be curtsied by unprofitable speed humps.

  5. Uncommon Sense says:

    I’m unclear on the resistance to speed cameras. You get a ticket when you break the law. What’s the beef?

  6. Drew says:

    @ UncommonSense:

    People seem to have issues with accepting responsibility when they do something wrong and also get caught doing it.

  7. What is wrong with you people says:

    >>Uncommon sense & Drew << Missing the bigger picture, which is the picture that the mayor and his contract receiving cronies get. With speed cameras in place, they also have the ability to start facial recognition and other nefarious schemes that they come up with. I don't have to worry, but then again, I shouldn't have to live with them spending ungodly amounts of money in search of revenue, while splitting profits amongst themselves. The new meter contract will end up costing more money too, otherwise CPM would not have gone for the plan.

  8. Mike says:

    A lot of people are “holier than thou,” but one day when they get a ticket, their tune changes very quickly.

  9. Drew says:

    @ Whats wrong…

    No…the problem is that Chicago and Cook County is so ‘meh’ about this shit perpetrated by the politicians.

    And at the State Level it’s just as bad.

    Even the New Orleans politicians are stunned by the shit that happens in the Land Of Lincoln.

  10. Uncommon Sense says:

    Mike – I’ve received my fair share of parking tickets. When I’m at fault, I pay them. When I’m not at fault, I challenge them (often thanks to the Geek’s stellar advice).

    I’ve never gotten a speeding ticket I didn’t earn. And you know what? I speed ALOT less during the period after which I’ve received a ticket. And that’s the whole point of speed limits/enforcement isn’t it.

    So no, I’m not holier than thou, but I just don’t get why people complain when they get caught BREAKING THE LAW. If you don’t like the law, change it. If you don’t like the lining of pockets, change it. But don’t complain about the one thing that’s not the problem.

  11. Jeff says:

    Why are speed cameras a bad idea?

    1. The whole rationale for the speed cameras (child safety near schools) has been demonstrated to be pure nonsense:

    http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-03-14/news/ct-met-speed-cameras-statistics-20120314_1_red-light-cameras-emanuel-administration-traffic-deaths

    2. The entire purpose of the speed camera system is to raise revenue, rather than doing the necessary cutting of the waste and fraud out of the city budget.

    3. Setting the cameras to fine anyone going 6 miles or more over the speed limit is nonsense. Most speedometers are subject to errors of 5 miles an hour, so this guarantees tickets will be issued to those who were trying their best not to speed. This is also why a police officer will typically only ticket you once you approach 10 miles an hour over the speed limit, rather than pulling you over for 5-6 miles an hour over.

    4. The speed signs near schools effectively make the speed limit go from 30 to 20 miles an hour, the very second a child comes into view. As a point of basis physics, a car going 30 miles an hour does not go from 30 to 20 miles per hour in a second, unless it crashes into something. In essence, these school signs, coupled with the new speed cameras, will be fining drivers for the crime of not defying the physical laws of motion.

    5. These red light and speed camera systems have been subject to numerous complaints about their accuracy, with several well-publicized stories of drivers being given improper tickets:

    http://www.inquisitr.com/260721/red-light-camera-suspension-poorly-timed-cameras-bring-n-j-ticket-program-to-a-hault/

    6. The presence of these cash grabbing cameras only adds to the perception that living/driving/shopping/visting in Chicago is not worth the trouble. This is why cities across the country have started yanking them out:

    http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/Houston-red-light-cameras-All-over-but-the-2139922.php

    7. Since this is Chicago, we have already seen corruption/bribery in the red light and speed camera programs. For example, note the recent disqualification of Redflex systems from Chicago’s traffic camera efforts, after allegations of bribery surface in the media:

    http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2013-04-11/news/ct-met-redflex-scandal-fallout-20130412_1_corruption-scandal-redflex-officials-red-light-camera-contract

    8. The placement of red light cameras (and now speed cameras) has never been about traffic safety – instead the placement of these cameras has been all about maximizing fines/city revenue:

    http://www.nbcchicago.com/blogs/ward-room/IG-Report-Questions-Locations-of-Chicago-Red-Light-Cameras-207379221.html

    9. Red light and speed cameras, rather than promoting safety, may actually cause more/deadlier accidents instead:

    http://blogs.lawyers.com/2013/05/red-light-cameras-cause-accidents/

    10. Worst of all, these camera systems will only end up lining the pockets of our Mayor’s reelection campaign. Note that the main Redflex lobbyist for speed camera legislation in Chicago and Springfield, Greg Goldner, was one of the Mayor’s biggest campaign supporters/contributors:

    http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-03-13/news/ct-met-resolute-emanuel-speed-cameras-20120313_1_speed-cameras-greg-goldner-red-light-cameras

  12. Jeff says:

    Note that the trend around the country is becoming more and more hostile to speed cameras. For example, in Ohio, one judge recently order speed cmaea system to be dismantled, and the Ohio Legislature is considering a ban on such systems:

    http://news.yahoo.com/judge-finds-ohio-village-contempt-155450291.html

  13. Jeff says:

    Note that the trend around the country is becoming more and more hostile to speed cameras. For example, in Ohio, one judge recently order a speed camara system to be dismantled, and the Ohio Legislature is considering a ban on such systems:

    http://news.yahoo.com/judge-finds-ohio-village-contempt-155450291.html

  14. Drew says:

    Chicago has this problem…

    On the one hand, speeders are a problem in this city and the CPD for some reason or another DOESN”T PULL THEM OVER.

    On the other hand, Speed Cameras Are a Revenue Cash Machine.

    1 out of 3 cars on Lake Shore Drive are speeding well above the 40 mph limit. Western and California and Damen and Clark and Ashland are just as bad. Same with Fullerton, North Ave, Devon, Foster, 22nd, and the rest of the major East/West or North/South Streets.

    We just don’t have enough Cops to do it what with the other Crime and all important things the undermanned Police Dept are attempting to do.

    I say for cities the Size of Chicago…Speed Cameras should be on every Major Street…each side…every 2 blocks.

    No one will be speeding after the first Month of Operation.

  15. Greg says:

    Here’s what I still don’t get – with a red light camera, there is photographic proof. When you get a ticket from a cop, you have the chance to challenge the cop directly.

    With the speed cameras, there is neither. A computerized system has said that you were speeding, but where is the proof other than the camera said so?

    How can you possibly challenge this? How is this legal?

  16. The Parking Ticket Geek says:

    Greg,

    You are raising some VERY good questions. The thing is, there are a lot of things we just don’t know.

    As much as city spokespeople can explain how they’re being told to explain things, the only way to really know is first hand.

    I’ve been going back and forth with people from American Traffic Solutions to get more technical data, so I’m hoping to post something Monday that may answers some of your questions–but perhaps not all.

    Barnet Fagel (The Redlight Doctor) and I both think the hearing process is going to be a clusterfark–at least when it comes to where speed cams are installed in school zones. The whole issue of “when a child is present” requirement is going to be very difficult to adjudicate.

  17. Drew says:

    On the face of it..

    Camera enforcement via Mailed Citations is a potential violation of the 6th Amendment….since I can’t subpoena a Camera to the stand and have it under oath.

  18. The Parking Ticket Geek says:

    Jeff,

    It’s late Saturday night (actually very early Sunday morning) and I saw that your comment did not post automatically. As moderator, I had to approve it.

    I’m not sure why the comment got flagged for moderation. Perhaps it was all the links you provided…maybe it thought you were posting SPAM.

    I just wanted you to know that I wasn’t blocking it and, like many of the frequent commentators here, you have carte blanche.

    BTW: Very well put together piece. Thank you!!!!

    Mike

  19. Jeff says:

    Geek:

    Thank you for the encouragement. I must say that many of the points I made in my post were based on information that I learned about from you — through your insightful musings on theexpiredmeter.com. We are all getting a great education on these issue thanks to you and all of your hard work. Keep it up, bro’!!

    Jeff

  20. The Parking Ticket Geek says:

    Jeff. Dude!. You’re going to give me a swelled head.

    Seriously, thanks for the kind thoughts. I VERY much appreciate them. You made my day.

    Thanks again.

    Mike

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