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	<title>Comments on: Red Light Camera Tickets, Revenue Plunges In Plainfield</title>
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		<title>By: Red Light Doctor</title>
		<link>http://theexpiredmeter.com/2012/08/red-light-camera-tickets-revenue-plunges-in-plainfield/comment-page-1/#comment-97949</link>
		<dc:creator>Red Light Doctor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2012 03:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comments Steve. The mayor of Plainfield and the city Council should hang their heads in shame for signing an agreement with the camera vendor it gives them nothing. Furthermore, the word &quot;safety&quot; does not appear anywhere in the camera vendor contract so there is no incentive to make the streets safer only to generate money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comments Steve. The mayor of Plainfield and the city Council should hang their heads in shame for signing an agreement with the camera vendor it gives them nothing. Furthermore, the word &#8220;safety&#8221; does not appear anywhere in the camera vendor contract so there is no incentive to make the streets safer only to generate money.</p>
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		<title>By: The Parking Ticket Geek</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Parking Ticket Geek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2012 07:53:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JP,

If these revenue numbers are correct and the assumptions I make are correct, Plainfield&#039;s RLC program is nothing but a lucrative revenue generator for the vendor.

To my mind, at worst, the revenue generated for a town through RLC enforcement should be split 50/50 with the vendor. Then, the city side of the revenue should be used strictly to improve traffic safety whether that is in the form of education or re-engineering intersections or improving traffic lights, etc.

Plainfield&#039;s situation seems unhealthily one sided to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JP,</p>
<p>If these revenue numbers are correct and the assumptions I make are correct, Plainfield&#8217;s RLC program is nothing but a lucrative revenue generator for the vendor.</p>
<p>To my mind, at worst, the revenue generated for a town through RLC enforcement should be split 50/50 with the vendor. Then, the city side of the revenue should be used strictly to improve traffic safety whether that is in the form of education or re-engineering intersections or improving traffic lights, etc.</p>
<p>Plainfield&#8217;s situation seems unhealthily one sided to me.</p>
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		<title>By: DoR Employee</title>
		<link>http://theexpiredmeter.com/2012/08/red-light-camera-tickets-revenue-plunges-in-plainfield/comment-page-1/#comment-97926</link>
		<dc:creator>DoR Employee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2012 20:39:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Geek...someone in the Plainfield City Council has to have gotten a serious Kickback to ignore Contract Language that remits just under 98% of generated Fine Revenue back to the company that installed/maintains the Cameras.

120,000.00 in generated Revenue in 2012 so far with only 2,000.00 paid to the city YTD? That&#039;s a Joke.

Even Chicago City Contracts are not that Lopsided.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geek&#8230;someone in the Plainfield City Council has to have gotten a serious Kickback to ignore Contract Language that remits just under 98% of generated Fine Revenue back to the company that installed/maintains the Cameras.</p>
<p>120,000.00 in generated Revenue in 2012 so far with only 2,000.00 paid to the city YTD? That&#8217;s a Joke.</p>
<p>Even Chicago City Contracts are not that Lopsided.</p>
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		<title>By: JP</title>
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		<dc:creator>JP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2012 17:02:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is exactly why I will fight to keep red light cameras out of my city.  A company comes in and makes deals with the politicians to put cameras up, and the city only gets a taste while most of the money gets sucked directly out of your community.  Terrible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is exactly why I will fight to keep red light cameras out of my city.  A company comes in and makes deals with the politicians to put cameras up, and the city only gets a taste while most of the money gets sucked directly out of your community.  Terrible.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Donaldson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Donaldson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2012 14:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would be nice if the paper got a hold of the violation breakdown.

Most RLC tickets tend to be right turns on red, stop line and split seconds.

So what is the breakdown???

(another ATS town showed that most &quot;violations&#039; were slow right turns on red.  http://www.banthecams.org/Studies-Show/ats-mukilteo-survey-proves-most-of-the-qviolationsq-were-right-turns.html   

You could go from here to the planet Jupiter before getting in a wreck making a right turn on red.  http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/26/2693.asp 

Most RLV crashes are plus 5 second into red events..)

I bring this up since towns have been known to &quot;adjust&quot; the violations they cite.  One game played by ATS was the &quot;rejection&quot; rate in Baytown TX.  http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/31/3173.asp   Quote:  &quot;Statistics show that, in response, city officials and American Traffic Solutions have deliberately issued fewer citations. The program rejected 29 percent of violations in July 2008, but documents show the rate of rejections climbed to 54 percent in December.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be nice if the paper got a hold of the violation breakdown.</p>
<p>Most RLC tickets tend to be right turns on red, stop line and split seconds.</p>
<p>So what is the breakdown???</p>
<p>(another ATS town showed that most &#8220;violations&#8217; were slow right turns on red.  <a href="http://www.banthecams.org/Studies-Show/ats-mukilteo-survey-proves-most-of-the-qviolationsq-were-right-turns.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.banthecams.org/Studies-Show/ats-mukilteo-survey-proves-most-of-the-qviolationsq-were-right-turns.html</a>   </p>
<p>You could go from here to the planet Jupiter before getting in a wreck making a right turn on red.  <a href="http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/26/2693.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/26/2693.asp</a> </p>
<p>Most RLV crashes are plus 5 second into red events..)</p>
<p>I bring this up since towns have been known to &#8220;adjust&#8221; the violations they cite.  One game played by ATS was the &#8220;rejection&#8221; rate in Baytown TX.  <a href="http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/31/3173.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/31/3173.asp</a>   Quote:  &#8220;Statistics show that, in response, city officials and American Traffic Solutions have deliberately issued fewer citations. The program rejected 29 percent of violations in July 2008, but documents show the rate of rejections climbed to 54 percent in December.&#8221;</p>
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