Ask The Parking Ticket Geek 2/9/09
Hey Geek,
So I bought a new car on Wednesday, even though the car is registered at my Chicago address, for the time being the dealer put an Elmwood Park vehicle sticker on since I used to have a car registered there.
I was planning to get a City of Chicago vehicle sticker this week.
Today, while parked in Lincoln “lack of” Park(ing), I was nailed with a $120 ticket for “No/improper vehicle sticker.”
I’m pretty pissed! I just got this car and haven’t been able to get a city sticker yet. Do I have any chance of winning if I fight this?
Thanks so much.
Mike Stephen
Host-Outside The Loop Radio
Dear Mike-
Rest assured. Unless you don’t contest the ticket, or try to contest your ticket sans clothing, drooling and convulsing in front of the hearing officer, it should be impossible to lose this one.
In Chicago, according to municipal law, you have 30 days from the purchase date of your vehicle to purchase and display your new Chicago vehicle sticker. Here’s the law:
9-64-125 Display of wheel tax license emblem.
No person shall park or stand on any portion of the public way, on any city-owned property, in a public parking garage as defined in Chapter 4-232, or any parking lot open to pedestrian traffic any vehicle requiring a license pursuant to Chapter 3-56 of this code, unless the wheel tax license emblem is displayed as required by Section 9-76-170 of this code. Pursuant to Section 3-56-021, any person alleged to have violated this section may raise as an affirmative defense that (1) such person resided in the city for less than 30 days at the time he or she was cited for the violation, or (2) the cited vehicle was purchased less than 30 days prior to the issuance of the violation.
Just hold onto the purchase receipt/bill or sale and your registration.
You should be able to do this by mail pretty easily.
Just write the letter explaining the time line. Provide copies of the dated bill of sale, the new registration AND a receipt of your new city sticker.
Grand slam. You win. Keep that $120 in your wallet.
Very truly yours,
The Geek
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Hello Parking Ticket Geek,
If you pay a parking ticket in Chicago, does it go on your driving record?
Thanks in advance for your response,
Erik
Hi Erik,
The answer is no.
Parking tickets have nothing to do with your driving record, whether you receive them, pay them or fight them.
The only way parking tickets can affect your driver’s license is if you have 10 or more unpaid parking tickets. At that point, the city can ask the Illinois Secretary of State to suspend your license until you pay up.
My advice is, as a dumbass who did have that many tickets and experience this problem, to avoid getting that many parking tickets and staying current with paying your tickets.
Very truly yours,
The Parking Ticket Geek
Hello Parking Ticket Geek-
I got a street cleaning ticket back in November, which I am contesting. The reasons I gave the city for contesting the ticket were:
According to the permanent street cleaning sign, cleaning stopped the end of October–and I got the ticket on November 13.
There were no paper notices placed either the night before or the morning of. I keep checking the status of my hearing on the city of Chicago website — and taking print shots of the page where it shows the dialog box indicating that there’s a hearing to be scheduled.
Question:
Should I pay the $50 charge, because I’ve heard that sometimes the ticket charge is doubled if it’s not paid–
Appreciate your help
Maria
Maria-
For the love of God, whatever you do, DO NOT pay that ticket!!!!
Wait until the ticket is ruled on by a hearing officer at the every least.
It’s just taking longer than normal because of the personnel cutbacks that have been made within the Dept. of Administrative Hearings. There are less hearing officers to adjudicate all the tickets being contested and it’s taking almost 4 months to have tickets adjudicated.
Read the story about these hearing delays here.
Just wait and see what happens. Your argument is sound and well thought out. I would think you should win.
Keep us posted.
Thanks
The PTG
O Wise One,
I was ticketed and towed and following in your footsteps, I fought the ticket on the grounds that there were no signs posted that restricted parking.
The ticket was dismissed, but I am still out my $160 tow fee.
What, if anything can I do to get reimbursement?
Thanks for any and all advice.
Nancy
Dear Nancy,
First, please let be disabuse you of your notion of me as “wise.”
I’m just a pinhead who’s just received waaaaaaaay too many parking tickets. That’s basically my claim to fame. In other words, an idiot.
Second, congratulations on your parking ticket victory. Way to go.
Third, I believe you are out of luck on getting your $160 back. The reason is, that you normally only have 14 days from the date of the tow, to contest it. It’s actually a different type of hearing than a parking ticket hearing.
So, in essence, you have to have two separate hearings for the same incident. One for the tow and a second one for the actual violation.
I hope this doesn’t happen to you again, but if it does, you need to schedule the hearing at the auto pound where you retrieve your car. Then show up on the day of your hearing. You’ll talk to a lawyer for the city who will review the case with you. Sometimes, they’ll agree to drop the tow and refund your money. If it moves forward to the hearing, just present your case and evidence (photographs, etc.) and the hearing officer will make a ruling. If you win, you get a check back in the mail within six to eight weeks.
In your case, you can try to go back to the auto pound with your dismissed ticket ruling and see if you can try to schedule a hearing after the fact. I don’t think you’ll get anywhere, but try anyways and see what happens. You never know.
Good luck and keep us posted.
Very truly yours,
The PTG
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I am a college student in Reading Pa. I got a parking ticket for being on the wrong side of the street for cleaning day. It’s the end of fall semester and im transferring schools, so i wont be back in Reading. i will however still be in-state. if i get pulled over for any reason in the state of Pa will i get in trouble for not paying this ticket, or do i only have to worry about Reading?
Connor-
I would not worry too much about it. Chicago is our area of specialty, but I would be surprised if Reading tracked you down.
Tell me what you know about 9-64-125 as it relates to having your expired city sticker on the car in ADDITION to your current sticker. I’m protesting the ticket for many reasons, but please let people know that they are currently issuing this ticket, for $120…even if you have the CURRENT sticker.
Dear Geek,
This isn’t a Chicago question (though I do love that city), but more of a general parking ticket question: Is there any inherent limit on the fine that a city or county can impose for particular parking infractions?
The question comes from the recent experience of getting a $407 ticket for something I didn’t see. This happened in Sacramento County, CA. I parked blocking a yellow rubber pad that the ticket claimed was a handicapped crossing. Never mind that it was largely covered in old mud, wasn’t marked as no parking in terms of signage or painted curbs, wasn’t connected to a crosswalk, and any person in a wheelchair trying to use it would be heading into oncoming traffic at the top of a T intersection (in an area where you are allowed otherwise to park at the top of T).
I would have been fine paying a reasonable ticket, but the unmarked nature of the offense and the extreme fine really appear to me to constitute a parking trap for the purposes of revenue. I also work around state government and have a little bit of time this fall to look into possible new laws–like setting limits on parking ticket fine and imposing requirements that any fine over a certain amount be clearly marked. I obviously can’t carry these myself, but I could suggest them to legislators looking for popular bills to carry.
Any info or resources you could provide would be much appreciated. Thanks!
Malcom,
Thanks for your note/question.
Let me begin by making it clear, I am not an attorney.
But my understanding is that a municipality or government body could set a fine as low or as high as they want. In Chicago, I believe they’re set too high. I’m pretty sure a $400+ fine you are contending with is too freak’n high as well.
It’s up to citizens to get involved in local government, make their voice heard and complain, complain, complain–if you want reasonable fines for these type of laws–or any laws.
I can’t address you specific situation as I am only experienced in Chicago parking laws. But…I would fight that ticket. Shoot photos showingt there are no signs, and that the yellow bumper or whatever is covered with mud. Bring in your photos and show how messed up the situation is.
I would fight a ticket for $25. A ticket for $400? You’d have to lock me up from fighting that ticket.
Good luck Malcom!
The PTG wrote:
But my understanding is that a municipality or government body could set a fine as low or as high as they want. In Chicago, I believe they’re set too high. I’m pretty sure a $400+ fine you are contending with is too freak’n high as well.
My comment:
Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.
8th Amendment, U.S. Constitution .
The excessive fines clause has not gotten a lot of use, but the Constitution certainly does have limits. It is a balancing test based on the gravity of the harm being sought to be protected. The only Supreme Court case in which a law was overturned was a Clarence Thomas Opinion (5-4 with Thomas joined by the liberals and the conservatives voting as a block the other way… a very strange decision a Thomas Case and a 5-4 with Thomas being the swing vote) in which a currency seizure was overturned as being excessive. The person in question had brought in undeclared currency over the legal limit (yes, there is a limit, anything over the limit must be declared) and it was all seized. Thomas said no.
This is why I enjoy David’s comments so much.
How often can one link a U.S. Supreme Court decision to a parking ticket fine?
Awesome!