Avoiding Red Light Camera Tickets: Know Your Enemy

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To my mind, the best way to not get a red light camera ticket is…to not blow through a red light.

The easiest and best way to do this is be more careful at intersections, slow down to a stop on the yellow, don’t try to beat the light, etc. This is the most obvious way to not get ticketed. But I have a few more suggestions to further insure you never receive those $100 red light camera tickets.

First, know where the red light intersections are located. Watch out for them in the towns, areas and neighborhoods you drive. Memorize them. Make note of them.

Here’s the current, most up-to-date list of red light cameras in Chicago.

Second, learn to watch out for the “Photo-Enforced” signs and for the cameras themselves in neighborhoods you only drive infrequently.

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Third, assume ALL intersections have red light cameras. That way, you will always drive more carefully and be more watchful at traffic lights.

The rules of the red light camera

Finally, you need to know about how the cameras work so you interact with them correctly. In other words, “know your enemy.”

The other day, I spent time learning the details of red light cameras with Chicago Department of Transportation (CDOT) spokesperson Brian Steele. Back in 2003, CDOT originated the red light camera program and Mr. Steele was intimately involved with the program. These days, Chicago’s Office of Emergency Management handles the red light camera program. So, Mr. Steele knows quite a bit about how these damn cameras work.

Steele explained that red light cameras are not running continuously. They are triggered by an under pavement sensor, located at the white stop bar markings, before the entrance of the intersection. This sensor only becomes active when the traffic light turns red. NOT yellow, but full on red.

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So, if you are already within the intersection when the light changes from yellow to red, you are safe–no ticket.

The red light camera does not trigger if you are already within the intersection when the light turns red.

Even if just your front wheels are past the white stop bar on the pavement, you are still safe as you are technically within the intersection, and can proceed to clear the intersection without being ticketed.

The under pavement sensor will only activate AFTER the light turns red.

This means, make sure you get your butt into the intersection while the light is either green or still yellow. Even if it’s just the very front of the car.

Or…stop at the entrance to the intersection BEFORE the light turns red.

“There is no gray area here,” according to Steele. “When you cross the stop bar (on the pavement) after the light turns red, the camera is triggered.”

Three seconds…only three seconds?

It’s important that you realize that the yellow light on all Chicago traffic lights have only a 3 second duration. Seriously, according to both Steele at CDOT and OEM, it’s only 3 seconds. This is not a long time. Think about that and drive accordingly.

Right on red

Steele also warned to be careful when making a right on red. He says many people get red light tickets and think the tickets are erroneous because they didn’t actually go through the intersection, but turned right on red. But according to Steele many people fail to actually stop first before turning right on the red. “As you know, Illinois law requires you to make a complete stop before turning right on red,” emphasized Steele.

So make sure you come to a complete stop before turning right on red, or you’ll get a red light camera ticket in the mail.

I fought the law…but the law won

Based on the details of the system and understanding how the red light cameras work, it’s not surprising that very few people ever beat a red light camera ticket. In most cases, when you get that letter with the bright red heading, you are guilty.

Fighting these tickets is nearly impossible. The video and photographic evidence is nealy impeachable. In addition, the success rate at red light camera hearings is not quite 2%. As opposed to 50-70% for regular parking tickets.

“Over the two years I was involved with the program, I only saw 4-5 errors during that time,” says Steele. “And it wasn’t a system malfunction but human error.”

That’s 4-5 errors out of tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of tickets that were issued. That’s pretty amazing.

Part of this success rate is because every instance that a red light camera is triggered, a human being reviews the incident and will only issue a ticket, when, according to Steele, “there is incontrovertible proof that a vehicle has gone through the intersection on a red light.”

We will get into details on how to contest red light camera citations and the few and only defenses that work in beating red light camera tickets in the future.

Special thanks to CDOT’s very kind Brian Steele who allowed me to waste nearly 45 minutes of his valuable time last week in researching this piece.

NEXT WEEK: Do license sprays protect you from red light camera tickets?

61 Responses to Avoiding Red Light Camera Tickets: Know Your Enemy

  1. The Parking Ticket Geek says:

    Tanya,

    I know of no towns that allow a “rolling stop.” Not at least legally. They may not enforce it but it is never legal to make a rolling stop.

    A red light camera is sure to nab someone embracing such an oxymoronic action.

    I think I’ll let the lawyers here and the Red Light Doctor take a crack at helping you Tanya.

    Paging the Red Light Doctor, paging the Red Light Doctor…

  2. Elvira Cortea says:

    I live in Riverside, CA. I just got a citation mailed to me that I failed to stop at the Red light. They sent 4 photos with it and a video. The 1st 2 pictures showed my car driving through the 1st white line of the intersection as you can see the red light on the traffic light and so with the video. The 2nd picture showed my front car with me driving but close to the camera post that is why it could only take a picture of me and part of the front of the car with the headlights but not the plate number that is because when the yellow light turned red I was past the 1st white line of the intersection and close to the traffic light and camera post. The 4th picture showed my plate number at the back of my car. My only proof was the picture taken with me with the front of my car near the camera when the yellow light turned red and that is why the camera could not take a picture of my front plate number. How could they present 2 pictures and a video showing I failed to stop at the red light ? Pls help.

  3. Richenel Jean Pierre says:

    I was driving today going to work and I made a hard stop right inside the white lane. Which means my front wheels was on the right lane. The camera went off. Is that a ticket or I was safe? That’s in Miami Florida.

  4. The Parking Ticket Geek says:

    Richenal,

    I’m not exactly sure about red light camera laws in Florida. But, if you didn’t go through the red light, you probably don’t h have anything to worry about.

  5. claudia says:

    Hi my friend told me that after you get about 4 of these red light ticket violations you start getting points or something like that against your license, i wanted to know if this is true.

  6. The Parking Ticket Geek says:

    Claudia,

    No, it is not true.

    Red light camera tickets are not criminal offenses like a traffic citation issued by a police officer–they’re more like parking tickets.

    The only issue would be if you have 5 unpaid RLC tickets. The city can then ask the Secy. of State to suspend your license. But, as long as you pay your tickets, this can’t happen.

  7. Jeff says:

    Paradox is that while red light cam violation is a no points offense, failing to stop at a stop sign is a ticketable offense over for whihc you have to show up in court, due the amount of the fine. Go figure.

  8. Drew says:

    5 to !0 or more unpaid tickets of any type in Chicago could result in the city going to the state to have your Drivers License suspended. But we don’t add points.

  9. Daisy says:

    Today I was turning left when I misjudged the duration of yellow light, and I believed my wheels passed the white front line when the light already turned red, therefore, I noticed the camera went off. However, I decided to reverse and rolled wheels back, and waited for the next green left turn light. Do I get a ticket or not? That occurred in MD. Please help.

  10. The Parking Ticket Geek says:

    Daisy,

    I think you’re going to be ok and avoid the RLC ticket. If you triggered the flash but ultimately didn’t go through the light, you will probably not get a ticket in the mail. If you do, fight the ticket because the video will support the fact you just triggered the flash and did not go through the red.

  11. Mike says:

    There is one possible out from these. There is a Min of time the yellow light should be,@ 4 seconds in NY, You can call in a complaint to who ever is responsible for the traffic light and ask for the timing to be checked, and get a letter saying it was too fast if it were.

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